Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Signs That You Are An Amway Zombie?

Sometimes it happens to the nicest of people and it oftens happens slowly and subtly. These are the signs that you are becoming indocrinated and you are likely annoying your friends and loved ones at this point. It may not be apparent right away but the change occurs and eventuall becomes noticable to those who know you. I hope this helps:

*You're driven to recruit everyone you know. You may even resort to deception or outright lies to get people to meetings. Before you know it, your family and friends avoid you like the plague. You end up spending time at malls and other public placse scouting for recruits. You almost become phony in talking to people and feigning interest in other people and their interests.

You're encouraged to develop an unreasonable, irrational zeal for the products. Even so far as to justify the quality of toilet paper or to call the products prestigious. You may even argue the quality of energy drinks or about phytonutrients, something you may not even know about.

A whole bunch of demands, promises, subtle threats of failure if you don't try hard enough are made in the promotional material and motivational seminars. i.e. If you quit, you are a loser destined to die broke and unhappy. Or you let someone steal your dream. These ridiculous claims are how your upline keeps you hooked.

Because the system is touted as the way you're going to make yourself fantastically rich, you're under pressure to drop any conflicting or competing interests such as your bowling league or golf club. Nothing else in life has importance except for the quest of financial freedom. All activities in your life must enhance your Amway business and have an affect on your financial future. No ther activities matter to you unless it affects your financial future. Even family and friends may be shunned in your quest for the holy financial grail.

Your upline soon becomes your most trusted friend. Your thoughts and feelings are shaped in part by the cds, meetings and functions. People who you may have trusted all your life suddenly becomes secondary in your life because of your undying loyalty to your upline.

Do you recognize these behaviors? Hopefully you aren't displaying these behaviors


Anonymous said...

Who the f--- do you think you are? Are you so bitter and hurt by your failure in Amway that you spend years of your life bashing them? If you spent a fraction of your time doing something producttive, you might have amounted to more than a hatred filled blogger.

Joecool said...

I'm not sure why people always think that anyone opposed to Amway is a failure or bitter. Did you lok at my profile? I was considered to be an up and coming successful IBO. But even at 4000 PV I wasn't making a net profit. I realized I could also "not make a net profit" by playing tennis or golf and when my upline wanted to control my life, I got out. I'm not bitter at all. I just share my experience so others don't fall into the same trap that I fell into.

Vince D said...

Some earmarks of a cult:

Cult members are isolated from the outside world and any reality testing it could provide.
Cult members often work full-time for the group for little or no pay
The cults manipulate guilt to their advantage
The cult's recruitment techniques are often deceptive
Rational thought is discouraged or forbidden
Many cults follow an "ends justify the means" philosophy.
Cults, particularly in regard to their finances, are shrouded in secrecy.

Commentary by Nori J. Muster
If you think you might be involved in a cult, ask yourself some serious questions about the group.

Do you have to change who you are to fit in, please others?
Do they set up a duality of "us" and "them" and tell you that people outside the group are bad, less important?
Do they treat "outsiders" badly or talk behind their backs?
Do they treat members badly when they fail to perform up to expectations?
Do they give a false impression to the public?
Source: http://surrealist.org/betrayalofthespirit/cult.html, as published January 31, 2012

Anonymous said...

JoeCool's seems productive, to me. But what do I know...maybe if I went to the Ron and Georgia Lee Puryear or Brad and Julie Duncan blogs I might get set straight on all things Amway and WWDB, equal time, you know...but wait, there isn't any Ron Puryear blog; what's up with that? ?


Anonymous said...

Mr. Cool also re-posts old posts regularly, for new folk who are just coming along, like yourself. This means it takes far less time than it may first appear to run this blog. Of course, compared with the amount of time spent on Amway, this blog takes no time at all.

He does seem to have hit a nerve there with you. Been out trolling the mall today? Maybe you recently cut some ties to old friends who don't share your enthusiasm? I have seen a lot of people try this scam, and have yet to see it end well for any of them.

Just remember, if apologies and regrets are sincere, people are very forgiving. Don't. Be too ashamed later to look people up and make amends- it's easier than you think, and almost everyone has fallen for one scam or another. You may feel you've burned some bridges, but you probably haven't really- just scorched them a little.

Anonymous said...

Anon@11:38, who the FUCK do you think YOU are? Oh, I know: a low-life, lame-sauce, kool-aid drinking, cult-following, dipshit SCAMBOT! Too much vulgarity for your "virgin" ears? Cool. Here's some more: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

**proud Amway hater**

Anonymous said...

I'm in wwdb right now and I'm rather enjoying it. My upline is a great guy and has helped me a lot. I've been in for a few months now haven't really made any money... Or lost any for that matter. Spend about 150 for start up cost which also included a very nice welcome package. Ive bought a few products here and there and I really like them as do my pets(cat food) considering they won't eat anything else.

One of my friends absolutely hates amway. I told him once about it, he said no and that was that, I still go to his house every week to hang out and his wife even buys from me as well do her friends.

It's what you make of it. I make some profit, made back what I spend in start up costs. I haven't put in as much time as I could have so I still enjoy doing what I enjoy to do. I haven't bought any CDs or training things nor do I intend to at the time. The only I do have was given to me by my upline.

Maybe this will help other people make up their mind about it, maybe it won't, I don't care. It's your life do with it what you will.

Anonymous said...

classic zombie unswer my upline is kind of cool i told him that what he can suggest me to wipe my ass with my right hand or left hand i knew it he got the right unswer i like him i can count on him 7/24 wooow he is a champion right now i am diamond and i still working on my old job how come o iam not working hard lets find more zombies

Anonymous said...

comic relief at its finest!

Anonymous said...

Haha I can am laughing at like blog, this just proves that you clearly had NO IDEA how to build the business!! I think you should stop feeling sorry for yourself and stop blaming the company for your lack of committment and failure. But good try bud ;)
See you at Diamond club... oh wait nevermind that's only for winners :/

Anonymous said...

4000 PV should have been bringing you a residual income of $2500+ per month, which works out to $30 K per year. Not bad...I bet there isn't an average job that could give you that kind of raise in a year..without changing your job completely or retraining for another career. This is a viable option for ppl who can't afford investing or who don't have 1 million bucks lieing around in the bank gaining interest at 3%. I would suggest you read an etirely outside sourced book called "Household Gold" before you make snap decisions by a disgruntled IBO who couldn't move past 4000PV. Or better yet, read "The business of the 21st Century" by well know author Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad series. Smarter ppl than this guy with opinions on making money. Some people are that crazy about sports and dedicate all their spare time to games..whether playing or going to games, or watching them on TV...the question is does it get you what you want in life? If it does, more power to you. some of us choose to spend our spare time building an asset so we can HAVE more time later to enjoy the rest of our lives. Work long for 40 years or work hard for 5 and enjoy the rest of your life. Get in because you WANT to...if someone pressures you, it'll never work for you.

Anonymous said...

winners at lying? yeah, i agree. :/

Anonymous said...

A definition of a Zombie: An individual who has an average mindset like everyone around them, who talks like everyone, who thinks like everyone and who dreams like everyone else.
Just like in the movies, its often a man-made virus that breaks loose into the atmosphere and infects the people who eventually become those zombies. In our society and our everyday work environment we have individuals whom we call bosses or lawmakers who inject those informational viruses into our brains and we spend the rest of our lives building their dreams. And just like in the movies, they have to find a rare vaccine which will be able to un-zombify those people, we have one of those rare vaccine our life which was discovered by two doctors, Rich Devos and Jay Van Andel and their hospital is AMWAY.

Anonymous said...

Amway provides products.
WWDB provides tools.
Upline provides support.
You provide desire and ambition.
I found this crap blog looking for WWDB supporters, and found a lot of broken, hurt, sad, lost souls. You know you have nothing and cant face being part of a group of loving supporting people. I fear for the future of your children. Then again, we do need people to clean up after we eat, and drive garbage trucks, and do all the things IBO's dont want to.

Anonymous said...

rofl @ this amdouche

Anonymous said...

LOL tools

tools @ amway = CD's of the top amway ibo's telling u about their vacation last year. i learned absolutely nothing about business in my time in amway. i learned how to read scripts to other people and waste my money. thank god i was smart enough to see through the BS immediately. im so happy a left and found someone who could actually teach me about real business.

Anonymous said...

If they are loving and open friends then why is it a dyadic relationship. I know my best friends true problems and he knows mine. If they are your friends why does your upline know your issues and problems but you do not know theirs?

It seems like that it would be a control issue to the extent of exploitation, or in reality it's all a front because you are just your upline's client and tool for them to make money.

Joecool said...

It is a control issue. My upline wanted to control my life. Even saying we should ask permission to buy a car, or even to make the decisions to get married or have children. They want to make sure you have enough money available to buy tools.

Anonymous said...

Why does everyone that is defending Amway seem so angry and calling others names?? If you are so happy and working toward wealth why are you so angry? That's a red flag right there...

Joecool said...

Everyone seems angry because they are only pretending to be successful but the reality is much different.

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Anonymous said...

Amway is a steaming pile of horseshit.

If you actually think that you're going to make money in a pyramid-ripoff racket like Amway, you need a brain transplant.