Saturday, January 28, 2012

Why Do People Quit Amway?

When I was a prospect for the Amway business, my sponsor told me that the diamond was in the top one tenth of one percent in income. Now it may or may not have been true but the audience certainly figured the diamond was wealthy. He (The diamond) arrived at the open meeting in a nice suit and a Mercedes Benz. He spoke about common sense things that people could relate to. That Americans are commonly carrying credit card debt and that inflation and insurance and other things took a bite out of your income. He spoke about waking up when you felt like it, flushing the job and your boss. He spoke about doing what you want when you want.

It sounded great. He explained that with 10-12 hours per week of work, you can do all of this in 2-5 years. With so much to gain, you would think everyone would do this and become "free".

In debating with Amway apologists, they often claim that most IBOs "do nothing". I don't believe that. First of all, I would challenge anyone to explain how they would know if someone did a little, or did nothing. Maybe the new IBO spoke to family and friends about the business and got laughed out of the room and ending up discouraged and quit. Maybe some truly do nothing. Maybe some try very hard only to get negligible results. But to claim that most IBOs do nothing is nothing more than a convenient excuse for Amwayers to justify the miserable results their IBOs end up with.

In my case, I did work hard. I sponsored a dozen people personally. I had some downline who sponsored and we moved volume. But as I moved up pin levels, I was encouraged to buy more tools and do more work. My reward for all that work? I just about broke even or took losses. That isn't factoring in my time and other expenses such as gas money. When I reached the 4000 PV level, I was at break even. My sponsor told me to just keep going and the money would be there. I calculated what my bottom line would be at platinum and I still could not see a profit on the horizon. I eventually decided that the Amway business simply wasn't profitable so I left. Not to mention at the time, uplines lied and said nobody made profits on tools.

So why do people quit Amway? In my experience and from years of contact with current and former IBOs, it is my conclusion that most IBOs at least give Amway a try before they quit. There is so muc negative about Amway on the net and in society that people can get discouraged and even those who work hard are likely to end up as I did. Yes, it's possible to make some money in Amway, but the tools scam will usually negate any profit an IBO might earn. I believe that people quit Amway having tried and gotten discouraged, or having tried, gotten results only to have a net loss. It's not the fault of the IBO. The Amway and the motivational groups such as WWDB or Network 21 are simply set up that way.


quixtarisacult said...


The products are basically unsellable to actual retail customers. Amway intends to sell their 'wampum' primarily to the pyramid of 'core' distributors--the only customers Amway has. Recently the Belgium courts have determined that Amway competitor, Herbalife, has no real retail customers. The same circumstance applies to Amway. The dream believing distributors are suckered in a well disguised pyramid scheme wherein all the money paid to the top of the pyramid distributors comes from a never ending churning of new distributors.

This is not really news to long term critics of Amway, but isn't it reassuring that some courts around the World have not been fooled by the disguised nature of these MLM schemes. The initiators of these schemes are actually criminals on the scale of the mafia. These motivational organizations sell a closed market product which encourage widescale 'intent to defraud' others.

Joecool said...

If I might add, even if the IBOs have some "customers", they are likely to be sympathetic and downtrodden family and friends.

I wonder if the Herbalife ruling will carry over to the US?

Edwin @ Amway Colombia said...


I think that the biggest problem is that the people in the network have a kind of cult culture.

It's a culture around the company and around the Diamonds.

My biggest problem with Amway is that the people reach a point where the first thing that they ask you is ¿Who is your Diamond? and where they don't see neighbours, family or friends but only prospects.

Lala25 said...

Please explain to me by '' you didnt see any results in the end '' at 4000 PV

Joecool said...

Because it's expensive to travel from Hawaii to the mainland for functions and because my "mentors" advised me to reinvest all profits into tools.

sss said...

Amway must be shut down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shame of them. my son got stuch. he id trying to get out of it